Karen Kirkland | Executive Director
Nickelodeon Writing Fellowship
The Television Writers Vault is very pleased to
welcome Karen Kirkland, Executive Director of the
Nickelodeon Writing Fellowship, here to share some
valuable insight of their program shepherding new
writing talent into the television industry. The
Nickelodeon Writing Fellowship was designed to
attract, develop and staff Writers with diverse
backgrounds and experiences. The fellowship provides
a salaried position for up to one year, and offers
hands-on experience writing spec scripts and
pitching story ideas in both live action and
animation television. It fosters opportunities to
nurture relationships with creators, network
executives, producers, writers, showrunners, and
editors. We encourage all aspiring Writers to
explore this special opportunity provided by
Nickelodeon in an effort to discover new talent.
Scott Manville: Thanks for sharing your time with us
at the TV Writers Vault, Karen. We’re very excited
to share your program with our Writers and
Producers.
Karen Kirkland: Thank you Scott. I’m really excited
to share information about the program as well. It’s
such an amazing opportunity for writers who want to
write for television!
Scott Manville: Can you share some details of the
program’s mission/objective?
Karen Kirkland: Absolutely. We offer writing
fellowships in live action and animated television
to writers with diverse backgrounds and experiences.
The program was developed to broaden Nickelodeon’s
outreach efforts and provides a salaried writing
position for up to one year. Participants have
hands-on interaction with executives pitching story
ideas and writing spec scripts. The main objective
or goal of the program is to get writers staffed on
our shows.
Scott Manville: It’s clear that the television
writing program at Nickelodeon has been a terrific
vehicle for discovering and fostering new talent for
the past decade. How have you seen it evolve as it
relates to discovering new talent and operating
within the industry?
Karen Kirkland: I think the program has grown by
leaps and bounds! There are now distinct systems in
place that help to ensure we’re staffing as many
writers as possible within a given year. When I
first began at Nickelodeon six years ago, the
program was not very well-known within the industry
at-large. I was amazed by how few writers,
executives and agents knew about the program.
Especially because it was such an amazing
opportunity for writers to get paid while doing what
they love to do – write! Unlike before, now many of
the writers that graduate from the program are
either being staffed on our shows, or they are
leaving well-equipped to get staff writing jobs
elsewhere within the industry.
The way in which we recruit writers has changed as
well. We now take a very active approach in
discovering new writing talent. We spend hours at
film festivals exposing writers to our How to Tell a
Story workshop and giving Script Reviews. I travel a
lot throughout the year to various colleges around
the Country spreading the word about the program and
encouraging graduating students to apply.
Just this year we finally have a presence on
Facebook and on Twitter. We’re attempting to take
advantage of as many social media outlets as
possible.
I would say that now after many years of marketing
the program and after many staffing success stories
– we’ve begun to nurture relationships within the
industry as a whole and folks are starting to take
notice.
Scott Manville: What’s the selection process like?
Karen Kirkland: Our selection process is very
rigorous! There are three ‘rounds’ of reading.
During round-one, all of the scripts are read by
professional readers who are experienced at doing
coverage and who understand the sensibilities of the
fellowship. They understand precisely the qualities
that make for a good script. Scripts that make it
through the first-round are then moved into the
second-round. The second-round scripts are read
in-house by the coordinators and managers within
Network, in both development and current series
(both live action and animation). The third-round
of reading is done by the Directors, EIC's and VP's
within development and current series, again both
live action and animation.
After the scripts have gone through the several
rounds of reading, I then read the scripts that have
come through the sifter. At that point I may or may
not "pass" on a few more. The writers of the
remaining scripts become the semi-finalists.
Keep in mind that at this point, we still haven’t
even looked at the application, the bio or the
resume for the writer. We don’t know anything about
the writer other than his or her writing ability.
All semi-finalists have a phone interview with me
and it’s usually during this time I’ll take a look
at the bio, resume and application so I can start to
get a feel for who they are, what their passions
are, etc. I’m intrigued by people and I want to find
out what motivates writers and what drives them to
create. During the phone interview is when I ask for
a second spec (hint, hint). If the writer doesn't
have a second spec – they’re immediately
disqualified. It's my belief that if you're a
writer - you're constantly writing, and if you're a
television writer - you should have more than one
television spec. Once I read your second spec,
you're then called in for an in-person interview.
If all goes well during the in-person interview -
you're then a finalist and moved into speed
interviews. Speed interviews are a super intense
series of interviews (with show creators, head
writers, line producers and network executives) that
take place over the course of a few days. Eleven
interviews over a course of 4 days to be exact…
Scott Manville: What kinds of writers/writing are
you looking for?
Karen Kirkland: We’re looking for strong writers
with great personalities. A writer that has a
creative point-of-view, a writer we’d want to spend
an entire year with, a writer that we’d feel
comfortable sending into one of our writer’s rooms,
someone who can hold his or her own. A writer that
is able to pitch jokes and break story. The majority
of the writers that get into the program don’t have
any professional experience. To be considered for
the program, you can’t have had any produced
television credits.
For submission to the fellowship you must submit a
�-hour spec script based on ANY comedic television
series currently on-air and in production on
primetime network or cable. Any �-hour spec. It
does NOT need to be for a Nickelodeon show, nor does
it need to be kid-friendly. Keep in mind that we
don’t accept pilots, original material or
feature-length scripts.
Your best bet is to write a spec script for 30 Rock,
Modern Family, The Office, Parks and Recreation,
Community, Curb Your Enthusiasm, It's Always Sunny
in Philadelphia - just to name a few.
The script will mainly be judged on story, humor,
dialogue, character development, structure and
originality.
Scott Manville: What advice would you give to
writers who are looking to enter the program?
Karen Kirkland: Have multiple 1/2-hour television
specs written - assuming you want to write for
television. Beware of typos - they are not your
friend! Before you write your spec, do yourself a
favor - write a 1/2-page premise first, then an
outline, then (and only then) should you write your
first draft.
Do your research - it's not enough to watch a couple
of episodes. Watch them all - multiple times!
Have a unique premise, a well told story, a clear A,
B and C story, clearly defined character
motivations, scenes that move the story forward, and
a solid structure - that's all...
Scott Manville: Once a Writer is brought into the
program, what is that experience like for them? What
would they possibly experience in the course of a
busy day?
Karen Kirkland: The Fellows begin in October every
year, and they come into the office every day from
10am to 5pm.
We feel that one of the most beneficial tools a
television writer can have is the working knowledge
of the creative process of getting notes from an
executive and learning how to incorporate those
notes into their scripts. To that end, we assign the
Fellow to an Executive in Charge of a show (an EIC).
The Fellow will spend a week researching that show
and coming up with 3 story ideas. The Fellow will
then pitch his/her story ideas to the exec. The exec
will choose one of them, give the writer some notes
and then the writer will have two days to write a
premise based on that story idea. Once the premise
is complete – we’ll then put the Fellow on a six
week writing schedule. During which time, they’ll
have two weeks to write an outline, and turn it into
the EIC. We schedule yet another notes meeting and
the writer will either need to revise the outline,
or move on and write the first draft. They’ll have a
week to write the first draft, followed by a notes
meeting, then two days to write a second draft, then
a notes meeting… They’ll continue on this path all
the way through to the final draft. Each fellow does
this for both a live-action show and an animated
show.
In addition, during the first few months the writers
are inundated with meetings with everyone at the
Studio, from executives, to show creators, to head
writers, to line producers and even folks in our
post-production department. These are elongated
one-hour meetings, and the writer must come to the
meeting prepared with at least 10 questions for the
person they’re meeting with. The fellow is then free
to network and nurture relationships, which is
something we encourage.
Interspersed with their writing and their meetings
are in-house workshops on how to break story to how
to write for comedy to how to succeed in Hollywood -
and that’s over the course of 4 or 5 months. Then we
send them to UCB, where they take improv classes.
Then we send them off to the Robert McKee “Story”
weekend. By March or April, they are ultimately
placed on a show – where they get experience in the
writer’s room – which is so incredibly valuable.
Within the first few weeks of being on the show, the
fellow is usually pitching out story ideas and/or
they’ve been assigned another script to write (this
one getting produced). Ultimately, the fellow stays
on that show until their fellowship is over in
October, and hopefully – like many of our past
writers, will then segue onto the show as a staff
writer.
Scott Manville: You have a ton of experience
witnessing new writers and their works. What are
some rookie mistakes that new writers often make?
Karen Kirkland: I want to see writers who are open
to change, writers who are not necessarily
completely married to every bit of dialogue they
write. Being too married to your material, and not
being open to notes is definitely a rookie mistake
in my opinion. I understand it though - it’s
difficult. As a writer, you’re really putting
yourself out there, that’s a part of you on that
page. And to have someone say, “Hmm, this really
isn’t working for me,” - I get it – that’s a
difficult thing to hear.
But it’s my opinion that in order to succeed in this
business as a writer – you’re going to have to
develop a thick skin. I know it can be tough at
times because there are some execs out there who are
frustrated writers themselves and they want you to
take their notes, and commit entirely to their
thought process. Within the confines of the Writing
Fellowship - a writer needs to be able to come to
the table with the understanding that this is going
to be a collaborative process. We’re going to have
a conversation about structure, tone and dialogue
and we’re also going to talk about what my “take
away” is as a reader, as an audience member. I’m
diving into your story with an open mind. What am I
feeling? Is this what you’re trying to convey?
What are the character motivations here? What kind
of story are you really trying to tell? I think
those questions are important ones.
Also, on the flip side of that, a writer shouldn’t
just agree with everything I’m saying. You can’t.
You have to be committed to and stand-up for your
vision. And I think that’s the fine line. The
writers may not be as savvy coming into the program,
but once they leave, they know exactly what that
fine line is and how to navigate it. They understand
the difference between picking and choosing their
battles and fighting for enough.
Scott Manville: How’s the reception of new Writers
by the Network and other Producers? We know TV
Production and Development at the Network level is
fast paced, often like jumping off a cliff. Does the
fellowship program soften the landing?
Karen Kirkland: I think I’m really lucky (and so are
the Writing Fellows) because I oversee (and they are
a part of) a program that the Network and the other
Producers here at the Studio absolutely love. A huge
amount of value is placed on the program and the
Network is completely committed to helping us place
the most talented writers into the program and
ultimately onto our shows. I think of this program
as a talent pool, and when an exec or a production
is in need of a writer, they know exactly where to
go!
I think part of what makes this program so
successful and why we’re able to staff so many
writers on our shows is that we’ve gotten complete
buy-in down the line - from our exec team to our
show creators, to our line producers and even from
the other writers on each of our shows.
I think in some ways the fellowship program
definitely softens the landing, but only a bit. It’s
definitely a fun program to be in, but it’s also a
very tough program – a boot camp of sorts. The
program is best suited for writers who are seriously
committed to their craft, to becoming better
writers, to learning more about the business and to
being open to the process.
Scott Manville: Does the program focus on animation,
live-action or both?
Karen Kirkland: The program focuses on both live
action and animation. In addition to writing scripts
for specific Nickelodeon shows, the writers in the
program also have to pick out of a box-full of
�-hour comedies. In this particular case, I’m acting
as the EIC and they have to write a premise, an
outline, three drafts and a final while getting
notes from me throughout. Yes, the overall objective
of the program is to develop the writers with a Nick
sensibility and staff them on one of our shows. But
what if that doesn’t happen? If for whatever reason
they don’t get staffed, I want them to be able to
walk out the door with more than what they came in
with.
Scott Manville: How is writing for Nickelodeon
different than writing for "adult" network shows?
Karen Kirkland: It’s unfortunate, but I think a lot
of writers don’t enter the program because they
believe there’s a big difference in writing for Nick
as opposed to writing for more “adult” network
shows. In my opinion, it’s not really all that
different. I think from a story perspective, making
sure you understand the tone of the show, having a
solid grasp of the character’s voices, having a
unique story to tell and injecting the script with a
huge dose of funny - it’s all the same.
If you’re a fan of our programming, you’ll notice
it’s pure entertainment for kids, but there’s also a
wink every now and then for the adult or older
sibling who’s watching along. Keep in mind the
stories are written by adults, but the one thing we
do not do is dumb anything down for kids. I would
say however that writing for our animated shows has
proven to be a challenge to some of the writers that
come through the program. For any writer that writes
short stories, they know it’s not as easy to clearly
and concisely convey an action-packed story in 11
minutes.
I want to work with a writer that can give me a
fresh perspective on the show they're writing for.
However, I still want the tone of the show to remain
intact and I still want the character voices to be
accurate, but I’d want to get a sense of the
writer’s voice, in terms of his or her point-of-view
on a specific topic. That’s not an easy thing to do
whether you’re writing for Nickelodeon or for
primetime network.
Your script has to make me laugh out loud! The
dialogue needs to be witty. Your story, your arcs
and your characters needs to be multi-layered. I can
always tell when a writer’s had fun writing their
script because I have fun reading it. Bottom line –
it’s about the work. The writers that have come
through the program and have been staffed on
Nickelodeon shows are doing well and are very happy
– as are the writers that have come through the
program, been staffed on our shows and have since
moved on to primetime network shows.Nickelodeon has
been able to put kids first in almost everything we
do. Having stories that are kid-relatable, stories
that are funny and stories that originate from
character – that’s what it’s all about.
Scott Manville: What are some of your previous
fellows doing now?
Karen Kirkland: When it comes to writers who have
graduated from the program, some of them get staffed
here at Nick and some of them don’t. Some of them
get staffed here first and stay for a few years,
then move on to other staff writing gigs once
production has ended on the show they were writing
for.
As a result of being in the fellowship, the majority
of the writers that have come through the program
have received multiple produced credits on
Nickelodeon shows. However, our main objective is to
not only get them produced credits, but to get them
staff writing jobs.
In the last six years, we've been successful at
staffing the majority of our writers on Nickelodeon
shows. In addition to those that are still writing
for Nick (Jonathan Butler, Gabe Garza, Jessica Gao,
May Chan, Ron Holsey, Ivory Floyd, Kerri Grant,
Stacie Craig), others that have come through the
fellowship are currently writing on or have written
on shows like Modern Family, The Cleveland Show, Mr.
Sunshine, Sesame Street, Everybody Hates Chris, My
Boys, Arrested Development, and Aliens in America to
name a few.
But for the writers who don’t get staffed, I don’t
abandon them either. For instance, there was one
writer this last cycle that didn’t get staffed, so I
put her on a six-week script schedule and she
started writing a Community spec. She completed that
spec and now she’s on a new six-week script schedule
for Modern Family. My door remains open... Even for
the finalists that make it to speed interviews but
don’t get chosen as Fellows, they know they can
always pick up the phone and call – or come in for a
Script Review.
Scott Manville: Do you think the internet has
changed TV writing at all? Should new writers be
using the internet’s online marketplaces like the TV
Writers Vault and your Fellowship Program at
NickWriting.com to get their stuff out there?
Karen Kirkland: I think the internet has changed TV
writing in that there are certainly more resources
available to writers than ever before. The ability
to access scripts online, to learning about script
and story structure from online tutorials and
podcasts. Writer’s can now realize their vision by
inexpensively creating their own webisodes. With
such a range of media platforms I think it’s an
amazing time to be a writer!
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